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Media Shout 3.5

I told you some time ago this was coming. I feel like I’ve lived with the new version long enough to write a reasonably well thought out review. Since it’s pretty long, I put it on the main Church Tech Arts website. Here’s the teaser, follow the link for the whole article.

Ahh, Media Shout. I’ll confess right up front that I’ve not been a huge fan of the software. I’ve used it for about 2 years now, and gotten pretty good at it, but haven’t been crazy about it. It is pretty popular, however, and while we’re taking a close look at ProPresenter in the near future, I felt it would be a good idea to run down what’s new in v. 3.5. A ton has already been written on the program, so I won’t delve into a complete description of what it is or how it does it. Instead, I will talk mostly about the key differences between 2.5 and 3.5, what I like and what I don’t. My reasoning is that the initial launch of v. 3.0 a few years ago was a big disaster (videos wouldn’t play, there was a huge lag between advancing a cue and a change on screen, etc.), and there are probably a bunch of users out there still using 2.5 because it works reasonably well and they are leery of an upgrade. This I will say upfront: If you’re still using 2.5, you should upgrade (double check the system requirements first to make sure your machine can handle it, however). If you’re new to the presentation software game, read on.

Read the whole review…

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8 Comments

  1. gholman@crosswindsonline.org

    Thanks for spending the time to detail Media Shout. I have been using MediaShout since 1998 and needless to say have become pretty familiar with it. We are still using version 2.5.2 here at Crosswinds and it works just like you point out in your article. We tried the upgrade to version 3.0 but was so disappointed that we went back to what we had. In my opionion the ONE greatest thing of the older version IS the ‘no response time’ in advancing lyrics. This is the ONE most important feature during the ‘live service’. If a slide is advanced too late and the congregation does not have the first word of the next phrase on the tip of their tongue then it totally disrupts the worship experience. You said that the upgrade is more consistent in this area but there is still a lag to go to the next slide. This fact alone will make me hesitate in getting it. However… since you say the upgrade is definately worth it (and I can see that there are many OTHER advantages to the upgrade), then I will take a serious look at it.

    I’m not opposed to a new version and a new look, but there will be a considerable amount of training for the (once a month) volunteers. This is always a big consideration when you impliment a new version of anything.

    Again… Thanks for the in depth look. I have no idea where you come up with the time to write such detailed information, but as for this reader, It will be worth it.

  2. gholman@crosswindsonline.org

    Thanks for spending the time to detail Media Shout. I have been using MediaShout since 1998 and needless to say have become pretty familiar with it. We are still using version 2.5.2 here at Crosswinds and it works just like you point out in your article. We tried the upgrade to version 3.0 but was so disappointed that we went back to what we had. In my opionion the ONE greatest thing of the older version IS the ‘no response time’ in advancing lyrics. This is the ONE most important feature during the ‘live service’. If a slide is advanced too late and the congregation does not have the first word of the next phrase on the tip of their tongue then it totally disrupts the worship experience. You said that the upgrade is more consistent in this area but there is still a lag to go to the next slide. This fact alone will make me hesitate in getting it. However… since you say the upgrade is definately worth it (and I can see that there are many OTHER advantages to the upgrade), then I will take a serious look at it.

    I’m not opposed to a new version and a new look, but there will be a considerable amount of training for the (once a month) volunteers. This is always a big consideration when you impliment a new version of anything.

    Again… Thanks for the in depth look. I have no idea where you come up with the time to write such detailed information, but as for this reader, It will be worth it.

  3. mike@churchtecharts.org

    Hey Greig! The new version is really worth it, and as for training, Robyn picked it up in about a half hour. They’ve made editing songs a lot easier, and overall it’s better to use than 2.5.

    With that said, we ran a special event last night from ProPresenter, and it totally rules. I showed our volunteer how to use it in about 10 minutes and after the event she said, “Wow, that really is a lot better!” Granted, I built most of the show beforehand, but it was really easy for her to follow. Look for an in-depth review on ProPresnter coming soon.

    Of course, that means more Macs! (though it would run fine off the MacBook).

  4. mike@churchtecharts.org

    Hey Greig! The new version is really worth it, and as for training, Robyn picked it up in about a half hour. They’ve made editing songs a lot easier, and overall it’s better to use than 2.5.

    With that said, we ran a special event last night from ProPresenter, and it totally rules. I showed our volunteer how to use it in about 10 minutes and after the event she said, “Wow, that really is a lot better!” Granted, I built most of the show beforehand, but it was really easy for her to follow. Look for an in-depth review on ProPresnter coming soon.

    Of course, that means more Macs! (though it would run fine off the MacBook).

  5. jneisinger@hotmail.com

    We just recently purchased MS after losing patience with SundayPlus’s lack of updating. We also tested out Easy Worship and SongShow Plus. It was close between MS and SSP, but ultimately I felt that MS was more powerful and versatile. We are currently totally PC, and I am limited in my technical skills, but I have a young operator who is a Mac kid, and I would be very interested in more a comparison of MS versus ProPresenter.

    BTW, I just discovered your site and it is an incredible wealth of information that I find very pertinent to our situation. I am a worship pastor in the Sacramento area. Thanks for posting all your wisdom!

  6. jneisinger@hotmail.com

    We just recently purchased MS after losing patience with SundayPlus’s lack of updating. We also tested out Easy Worship and SongShow Plus. It was close between MS and SSP, but ultimately I felt that MS was more powerful and versatile. We are currently totally PC, and I am limited in my technical skills, but I have a young operator who is a Mac kid, and I would be very interested in more a comparison of MS versus ProPresenter.

    BTW, I just discovered your site and it is an incredible wealth of information that I find very pertinent to our situation. I am a worship pastor in the Sacramento area. Thanks for posting all your wisdom!

  7. mike@churchtecharts.org

    Hi Joshua,
    I’m glad you found the site helpful. We switched from MediaShout to ProPresenter about a year ago. I’ve written about ProPresenter quite extensively on the blog. Click on the category cloud on the right–Presentation–and you’ll find a wealth of info.

    Also, Daniel Koster, Jay Delp and I wrote an article for Technologies for Worship Magazine that compares Media Shout, Easy Worship and ProPresenter. I don’t have Jay’s part of the story, but I did post the MediaShout vs. ProPresenter portion on the web. You can find it here:
    http://www.churchtecharts.org/reviews/presSoftwareShootout.html

    It’s a little out of date since both packages have been updated since that was written almost a year ago, but there’s still some good information there.

    Thanks for reading!
    mike

  8. mike@churchtecharts.org

    Hi Joshua,
    I’m glad you found the site helpful. We switched from MediaShout to ProPresenter about a year ago. I’ve written about ProPresenter quite extensively on the blog. Click on the category cloud on the right–Presentation–and you’ll find a wealth of info.

    Also, Daniel Koster, Jay Delp and I wrote an article for Technologies for Worship Magazine that compares Media Shout, Easy Worship and ProPresenter. I don’t have Jay’s part of the story, but I did post the MediaShout vs. ProPresenter portion on the web. You can find it here:
    http://www.churchtecharts.org/reviews/presSoftwareShootout.html

    It’s a little out of date since both packages have been updated since that was written almost a year ago, but there’s still some good information there.

    Thanks for reading!
    mike

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